{"id":4333,"date":"2014-05-09T12:28:08","date_gmt":"2014-05-09T12:28:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/skylight.gr\/administrator_wordpress\/index.php\/2014\/05\/09\/cynics-paul-masvidal-and-sean-reinert-talk-about-their-sexual-orientation\/"},"modified":"2014-05-09T12:28:08","modified_gmt":"2014-05-09T12:28:08","slug":"cynics-paul-masvidal-and-sean-reinert-talk-about-their-sexual-orientation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/skylight.gr\/index.php\/2014\/05\/09\/cynics-paul-masvidal-and-sean-reinert-talk-about-their-sexual-orientation\/","title":{"rendered":"Cynic&#8217;s Paul Masvidal and Sean Reinert talk about their sexual orientation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.emptywords.org\/ThrashnBurn-CYNIC-02-1992-PaulMasvidal2.JPG\" border=\"0\" width=\"219\" height=\"240\" \/><br \/>Both men are gay and stars in a music scene where bands can wear corpse-paint makeup and leather S&amp;M garb while singing about Satan and dismemberment \u2014 yet genuinely nonconforming sexuality hasn&#8217;t always been welcome. Though they&#8217;ve been comfortably out for years in their private lives, the two haven&#8217;t yet spoken about their sexuality in the context of their music.  <!--more-->  <\/p>\n<p>As artists, they&#8217;ve pushed the edges of heavy metal music for most of their lives. Now they&#8217;re ready to challenge old stereotypes about sexuality in one of music&#8217;s most aggressively masculine genres.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I see all those old dudes out there just banging their heads to our records,&#8221; Reinert said, wearing an imposing goatee and extra-large Miami Dolphins jersey. &#8220;And I have to think \u2014 &#8216;That stuff you&#8217;re banging your head to? That is some gay, gay metal, man.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Masvidal had come out to friends and family in 1991, and later began exploring drag bars and gay nightclubs while on tour. Reinert a bit took longer to come out. (And, they stress, they&#8217;ve never been attracted to each other.)<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I knew that, secretly, I wanted to go to those clubs too,&#8221; Reinert, 42, said. &#8220;But back then, my stereotype of how to be gay was wearing dresses and tank tops. I didn&#8217;t have any masculine, metal role models who were gay.&#8221;<br \/>cComments<\/p>\n<p> I would think that those that follow &#8220;Metal&#8221; music would be more welcoming of all people&#8230;they, (the heavier metal bands)themselves have been on the outs with main stream music, I would think they would be the first people to not discriminate. Then again, I&#8217;m not a Metal fan, but both my&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Metal&#8217;s first openly gay star, Rob Halford of Judas Priest, didn&#8217;t come out until 1998. Gay extreme-metal peers, like Gorgoroth&#8217;s frontman Gaahl, were vanishingly few (and not exactly role models \u2014 Gaahl once went to prison for torturing a man and collecting his blood).<\/p>\n<p>On Cynic&#8217;s first big national tour in the early &#8217;90s, opening for the superstar death metal band Cannibal Corpse, the pair sometimes worried they&#8217;d get thrown offstage \u2014 or worse. Even if they weren&#8217;t publicly out, they still challenged audiences with an anti-macho stage presence.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That tour was really traumatic for us,&#8221; Masvidal said, recalling anti-gay epithets being yelled at them. &#8220;We were wearing Indian garb and we had a girl keyboardist, and we were playing to this Paleolithic crowd throwing bottles and yelling &#8216;Get off the stage&#8230;&#8217; It was our first big tour and all we could think was, &#8216;We don&#8217;t belong here.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Neither Masvidal nor Reinert was ready to include his sexuality as a part of the band&#8217;s identity. After those rough early tours, Cynic started winding down in 1994, having kept their sexuality quiet from their fans for their whole career.<\/p>\n<p>The two eventually moved to L.A. and pursued other projects, together and apart. They started bands like the dreamy and pop-inclined Aeon Spoke, and played alongside members of Yes and King Crimson in Malone&#8217;s band Gordian Knot. Masvidal worked in composing and soundtracking (writing and playing for hit shows like &#8220;3rd Rock From the Sun,&#8221; &#8220;Smallville,&#8221; &#8220;That &#8217;70s Show&#8221; and &#8220;Ice Road Truckers&#8221;), and collaborated on a children&#8217;s record with actor Jim Carrey.<\/p>\n<p>Young fans emailed Masvidal and Reinert to beg for a reunion. Major acts cited &#8220;Focus&#8221; as a foundational album. &#8220;Cynic was a big thing for me personally,&#8221; said Tomas Haake, the drummer for the band Meshuggah. &#8220;They had something I hadn&#8217;t heard in metal up to that point, a kind of &#8216;jazzy&#8217; approach to the songwriting [that] was really intriguing and influential.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Some fans have always wondered about their sexuality. Interviewers pushed the point by asking about hypothetical wives and kids. Sometimes their metal-scene celebrity caught up with them in their romantic lives.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I went on a date with this one awful guy who blogged about it on his website,&#8221; Reinert said. &#8220;So for years, if you typed my name into Google, the second thing that came up, after &#8216;Sean Reinert Drummer,&#8217; was &#8216;Sean Reinert Gay.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Even in their 40s, and with gay marriage becoming law across America, Masvidal and Reinert (who lives with a longtime boyfriend) can&#8217;t quite shake doubts that their careers in metal are still at risk.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s one thing to make out with your bandmates and just &#8216;play gay&#8217; because it&#8217;s edgy,&#8221; Masvidal said. &#8220;It&#8217;s another thing to actually live it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>They&#8217;re also nervous that coming out will take the focus off their music. &#8220;There&#8217;s definitely going to be a reaction, but it&#8217;s important that we be truthful,&#8221; Masvidal said.<br \/>lRelated Paul Masvidal and Sean Reinert of Cynic.<\/p>\n<p>As the sun sets over Echo Park Lake, Reinert and Masvidal talk future tour plans (they&#8217;ll headline the El Rey Theatre on July 12) with the optimism of a rising act watching the world respond to its music and ambitions. In a way, Cynic is again living that out. Just with a whole new set of boundaries to push.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Gay people are everywhere, doing every job, playing every kind of music and we always have been,&#8221; Reinert said. &#8220;It&#8217;s taken me years to finally be brave enough to say, &#8216;If you have a problem with that, then throw out our records. That&#8217;s your problem, not mine.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/c\/ca\/Sean_Reinert.jpg\/250px-Sean_Reinert.jpg\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Source: The Los Angeles Times<br \/>Photo Credits:http:\/\/www.emptywords.org\/<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Both men are gay and stars in a music scene where bands can wear corpse-paint&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4333","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-music-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/skylight.gr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4333","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/skylight.gr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/skylight.gr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skylight.gr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skylight.gr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4333"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/skylight.gr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4333\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/skylight.gr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4333"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skylight.gr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4333"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/skylight.gr\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4333"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}